Tamara Keith and Amy Walter on impeachment trial witnesses, Iowa polls

NPR's Tamara Keith and Amy Walter of the Cook Political Report join Judy Woodruff to discuss the latest political news, including whether enough Senate Republicans will vote to hear witnesses in the impeachment trial of President Trump and how 2020 presidential candidates are polling and campaigning in Iowa as its Democratic caucuses approach.

As Republicans grapple with mounting pressure for witnesses, Americans have already decided

Once again, the GOP is just catching up to where the nation already is, even as Republicans fight to remain in their hermetically sealed Fox News bubble. Following the bombshell John Bolton news, Senate Republicans are reportedly pulling each other aside and talking in hushed tones about potentially calling a witness or two during Donald Trump’s Senate impeachment trial. Gasp. 

Naturally, they're following the nation instead of leading it, as is the GOP way. If there is such thing as a national consensus these days in American politics, voters' desire to hear from witnesses is about as close as it gets. As MSNBC's Steve Benen pointed out, three major polls in the past week have all shown that at least two-thirds of respondents want new witness testimony in Trump's impeachment trial.

That includes:

66% in the latest Washington Post/ABC poll 68% in the latest AP-NORC poll 69% in the latest CNN poll

That’s about as much agreement as we’ll get on anything as politically charged as an impeachment trial. If Republicans blow it to protect Trump, their complicity in the cover-up will be more obvious than ever.

‘Not a Single Witness’: Trump Lawyer Continues to Deny Quid Pro Quo Despite Bolton Book Leak

‘Not a Single Witness’: Trump Lawyer Continues to Deny Quid Pro Quo Despite Bolton Book LeakJust one day after a leaked excerpt of John Bolton's upcoming book revealed that he directly witnessed President Trump condition Ukrainian military aid on a politically beneficial investigation, Trump's personal lawyer Jay Sekulow claimed during Monday’s impeachment trial that "not a single witness” made such a claim.“Not a single witness testified that the president himself said that there was any connection between any investigation and security assistance, a presidential meeting, or anything else," Sekulow stated.During the House phase of the impeachment process, prominent Republicans, such as Representative Jim Jordan (R., Ohio), based their defense of the president largely on the second-hand nature of the testimony provided by witnesses such as ambassador to the E.U. Gordon Sondland.That strategy, which was taken up by the president's lawyers on the Senate floor Saturday, appeared unchanged during Sekulow's opening remarks on Monday — despite the revelation that Bolton allegedly witnessed Trump's orchestration of a quid pro quo."What we've done on Saturday is the pattern that we're going to continue today as far as how we're going to deal with the case. We deal with transcript evidence, we deal with publicly available information. We do not deal with speculation, allegations that are not based on evidentiary standards at all," Sekulow said.Based on an excerpt of Bolton's upcoming book "The Room Where It Happened," The New York Times reported on Sunday that the former national security adviser heard Trump in August tying $400 million in military aid to a public announcement of investigations by Ukrainian officials. The president and his allies have consistently argued that Trump never made that explicit connection.Following the Bolton news, which broke Sunday night, Trump tweeted the he “NEVER” mentioned the alleged quid-pro-quo to Bolton.“If John Bolton said this, it was only to sell a book,” Trump said.Several Senate Republicans appeared willing Monday to vote to compel Bolton’s testimony when the upper chamber votes on witnesses and documents later this week following the conclusion of opening arguments.“I think it’s increasingly likely that other Republicans will join those of us who think we should hear from John Bolton,” Senator Mitt Romney (R., Utah) told reporters.Senator Susan Collins (R., Maine) also appeared open to hearing more from Bolton, saying in a statement that the report “strengthens the case for witnesses.”


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