Question and answer time begins in Trump impeachment trial: Live coverage #3

Donald Trump’s impeachment defense began and ended Friday, filled with repetitive, amateurish, dishonest videos and arguments. His lawyers failed to refute the rock-solid case of the House impeachment managers, but they’re not worried, because, thanks to Republican partisanship, they never thought they had to do so.

The impeachment trial now moves on to the question-and-answer period.

It will be aired on major television news networks and streamed on their websites. Daily Kos will have continuing coverage.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:02:36 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

We’re moving straight into the question and answer session, with questions addressed to each legal team.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:03:30 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

The Washington Post has a tally of the lies told by Trump’s legal team.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:08:07 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

After Rep. Castro provides a thorough answer on Trump’s involvement, Cruz and Graham provide a set up in which they ask “does a politician raising bail for rioters encourage more rioting.” This is slander aimed at Vice President Kamala Harris, who requested people contributed to a bail fund for peaceful protesters, none of whom had been accused of violence crimes.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:11:19 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Raskin gets a question on Trump’s challenging the election and differentiates between Trump’s attempts to make a legal challenge, to attempting to bully officials, to inciting a mob.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:12:56 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski send a question to Trump’s team: “Exactly when did Pres. Trump learn of the breach of the Capitol, and what specific actions did he take to bring the rioting to an end.”

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:14:29 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Trump’s team is very, very much not answering this question. They’re also lying about access to the security videos, because they also have access to this.

This is a key question, and they’re providing no answer. Because there is no good answer.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:15:48 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

That answer was so bad, it may have lost them another vote. Really.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:16:44 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Question concerning the Proud Boys group, “Is there evidence that Trump knew, or should have known, that his tolerance of anti-Semitic speech could incite the kind of violence we saw on Jan. 6?”

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:18:49 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Plaskett does a good job of answering the question, giving instances of Trump’s previous support of violence.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:20:30 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Hagerty and Scott ask a nonsense question “isn’t this just a political show trial” as a set up for Trump’s legal team. Pointless.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:23:08 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Markey and Duckworth send a question to the House managers asking the same thing that Collins and Murkowski asked. Good on them.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:25:42 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Plaskett points out how ridiculous it is to think that Trump wasn’t aware of everything that was going on the moment it happened. However, I sincerely wish she had pointed out the timeline of the breach, then the call to Tuberville, then the tweet concerning Pence. That’s a critical moment.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:28:18 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Romney and Collins send a question to both sides: “When Pres. Trump send disparaging tweets at 2:24 PM was he aware that Pence had been removed from the Senate by Secret Service for his safety.”

Note: I like it when people ask the questions I want asked.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:29:44 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Castro handles the response from the House side, but fails to connect it to the phone call from Tuberville. Dammit. The phone call was RIGHT BEFORE the tweet. Tie the two together, man.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:30:31 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Okay, there you go! The call to Tuberville! Perfect. That’s what we needed. Thank you. Nail. Coffin.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:32:21 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Trump’s team claim that Trump never knew that Pence was in danger, again hides behind the idea that “the House didn’t investigate.”

Oh boy, they KNOW they’ve lost on this one, because they’re falling back on the “that’s not the charge.” 

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:34:27 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Klobachar, Casey, and Brown to House managers: “In presenting your case, you relied on past precedent on impeachment trials, such as Wm. Belknap impeachment. If we do not impeach Pres. Trump, what message will we be sending to future presidents and congresses?” 

And okay, this one is definitely a softball. But Trump’s team already got two.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:38:42 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Plaskett gives a good short speech in response. “And the world watched us, and the world is still watching … extremists who attacked the Capitol … will be emboldened ... Donald Trump told them this was only the beginning.”

Plaskett also points out the frequency of women of color being used in the videos from the defense team. “I thought we were past that. Maybe we’re not.” 

Nicely done.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:41:17 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Mike Lee and Josh Hawley and the rest of the insurgency caucus tees one up for Trump’s attorneys: “Multiple state constitutions enacted prior to 1787 … specifically provided for the impeachment of a former officer.” Does leaving that out of the Constitution mean framers didn’t want former officials impeached.

Trump’s team, unaspiringly, says sure. And this has been another episode of Conservative Republicans pretend to get into the heads of people in the 18th century.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:43:02 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Alex Padilla gets to House managers about the “big lie” and the results in encouraging Trump supporters.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:46:15 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Castro takes the “74  million” that Trump’s team keeps using and flips it around — that’s how many people Trump kept telling they were getting their votes stolen. Trump didn’t need to get more than a small fraction of his supporters to believe to make up the mob that attacked the Capitol.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:51:55 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Hawley pops right back up again to ask both sides: “If the Senate’s power to disqualify is not derivative of the power to remove, could the Senate disqualify a sitting president, but not remove him or her.” Which may sound like an interesting thought experiment, but is, of course, just a set up for Trump’s team to say “No.”

Van der Veen being extraordinarily snide and dishonest in his reply.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:54:23 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Raskin gives a clear answer to the actual question. Showing that of the eight people convicted, only three were disqualified. Showing that disqualification is a separate act.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 9:59:32 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Warren asks the House managers if Democrats in the past asked members of Congress to object to votes after an insurrection. Which … I kind of which she hadn’t asked, because there’s an opportunity here to pound the sorest points on the Trump case. But Rep. Raskin does a good job of clearing up at least one of the items that appeared in the Trump team’s videos.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 10:01:17 PM +00:00 · Laura Clawson

Question from Sen. Kevin Cramer: Has there been a more pro-Israel president than Donald Trump?

Angry Trump lawyer says no, then starts yelling about Democrats supposedly having gotten “caught doctoring the evidence.” 

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 10:07:00 PM +00:00 · Laura Clawson

I wish a Senator would ask: which specific pieces of video do Republicans claim was "doctored." The surveillance camera video, the press video, or the video from the insurrectionists themselves? Or all of it? They should be specific.

— Joy WE VOTED!! WEAR A MASK!! Reid 😷) (@JoyAnnReid) February 12, 2021

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 10:07:44 PM +00:00 · Barbara Morrill

Bernie Sanders asks both sides if the election was stolen from Donald Trump. House Manager Plaskett says “he lost the election, he lost the court cases” and throws in a quote from Mitch McConnell noting Trump lost. Trump’s lawyer responds—after having the question read twice—by saying “My judgement is irrelevant here.” Refuses to answer the question. And finishes by attacking the House Managers. 

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 10:16:23 PM +00:00 · Laura Clawson

Sen. Ron Johnson wants both teams to answer why, if the attack was predictable and foreseeable, law enforcement were caught off guard and the House sergeant at arms reportedly turned down a request to activate the National Guard.

Team Trump up first. Once again Van der Veen asks for the question to be repeated. Delaying much, here? His answer: “Holy cow, that is a really good question.” What a vehicle for attacking the House managers for not investigating enough! 

Hmm … Maybe this is because the head of the Capitol Police and the House sergeant at arms were already forced out?

Van der Veen even gets a “jiminy crickets” in there to show just how flabbergasted he is by this issue. “Who ignored it, and why?” he asks.

Plaskett: “First, if defense council has exculpatory evidence, you’re welcome to give it to us. We would love to see it.” She notes that Trump’s lawyers are eager to blame everyone but Trump, the one who had access to the most information about what would happen. And the National Guard was not deployed for two hours after it was requested—that’s not on Washington, D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser or anyone but the federal government. “The president of the United States did not defend the Capitol of this country.”

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 10:21:40 PM +00:00 · Barbara Morrill

The question to the House Managers is—paraphrasing here—if Trump’s Big Lie caused the violence and death on January 6, does him saying “be peaceful” excuse the incitement. House Manager Castro says, much more eloquently, no. 

Donald Trump’s insult-to-the-nation of an impeachment defense continues: Live coverage #2

Donald Trump’s impeachment defense begins—and is expected to end—today, following two days of argument for his guilt by the House impeachment managers. That prosecution was rock solid, tracing out how Trump set the stage to delegitimize an election he lost, then followed through when he did lose, insisting that the election must have been stolen. They showed that Trump himself chose the date of Jan. 6 for an event—which he promised “will be wild”—calling his supporters to Washington, D.C. on the day Congress met to certify the election results. They showed his repeated pressure and public attacks on Mike Pence, who he wanted to overturn the election. They showed how he encouraged the rally crowd outside the White House to be angry and to march on the Capitol. They showed how the mob received Trump’s instructions, saying it themselves in videos of the Capitol attack and in interviews and court documents since that they were doing what he had asked of them. They showed how terribly close to harm members of Congress—and in particular Pence—came. And they showed how Trump did not call the mob off throughout the attack.

Now his defense team begins, knowing that the vast majority of Republican senators do not care how guilty Trump is and do not care how ineffective the defense is. Expect it to be alternatively incompetent and dangerous and to show its contempt for the rule of law in its shoddiness and shortness.

It will be aired on major television news networks and streamed on their websites. Daily Kos will have continuing coverage.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:17:40 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Van der Veen is really shocked—shocked, mind you—that the House managers didn’t spend more time on a defense that he put forward which was nonsense.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:19:08 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

I’m having trouble believing that this will actually be done in 3 hours, because I’m no sure Van der Veen will get through a paragraph by then.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:20:20 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Van der Veen now going to show another video. Let’s just hope it’s not another rerun.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:25:51 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Van der Veen is really going to go down the road of the “First Amendment defense.” Which apparently requires a lot of reading things out slowly.

Since this is the weakest of all the points Trump’s team made, it’s fine if they want to run out the clock with this.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:27:54 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

According to Van der Veen, “Wilson” is telling me about something the Senate cannot do. And I confess, I’ve already zoned out enough to not remember who Wilson is.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:30:58 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Apologizing again for mistaking Van der Veen for Castor. Have I mentioned before that I have prosopagnosia. Yup.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:34:52 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Van der Veen feels very bullied just because every constitutional scholar in the nation disagrees with his nonsense position.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:40:26 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Van der Veen insists this is read along time, as he continues to make an claim against an argument the House managers never made.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:44:11 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

“Allegations of irregular Negro block-voting... It was the 60s” 😳 pic.twitter.com/iPJAOPvD8w

— Matt Rogers 🗳 (@Politidope) February 12, 2021

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:53:23 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

No playing large parts of Trump’s speech on Jan. 6, including things that have no connection to what van der Veen said he was trying to do. He did make sure to get Hunter Biden into the clip.

Honestly, the House managers could have run this same clip. Because it’s certainly not helping Trump.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:57:02 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

So, what the Trump team really meant is they had 1 hour of material that they would use three times over.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 6:59:35 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Break. Everyone has 15 minutes to sober up from any drinking games before Castor comes on.

And if your drinking game involved the word “fight,” your family has 15 minutes to make arrangements.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:35:29 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

And we’re back, and Bruce Castor — yes, actual Bruce Castor — is coming forward.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:38:03 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Castor: “Clearly there was no insurrection.” Who then explains that it can’t be an insurrection unless you take over the television statements.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:41:00 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Castor says the House impeachment managers spent “no time” connecting Trump to the insurrection. He’s now talking about Trump’s “real supporters,” because he’s also leaning into the idea that the people there on Jan. 6 were not real Trump supporters.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:42:29 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

And dammit, he’s now repeating a video. Because we can’t go five minutes without a rerun. 

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:48:32 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Like the videos, Castor’s whole argument is a rerun, Van der Veen already said everything he’s saying.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:50:02 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

About the only thing Castor seems to be adding is a lot of attacking the House managers.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:53:19 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Please. Let's not see the fight video again. Please.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 7:55:33 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Yup. Insulting the House managers is definitely Castor’s primary role.

Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 8:01:32 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner
  1. The Trump “stay peaceful” tweet is over an hour after the attack on the Capitol began.
  2. It’s not only after the insurgents broke into the Capitol, after he called Tuberville, and not only after the tweet urging them to go after Pence.
  3. And yes, the House managers did show that tweet. More than once.
Friday, Feb 12, 2021 · 8:03:56 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

It’s nice how Trump’s team constantly talks about edited videos, before showing 2 second clips. And screams against using media sources, before citing media sources. 

But really, who expected anything more?

Donald Trump’s impeachment defense begins. Expect nonsense: Live coverage #1

Donald Trump’s impeachment defense begins—and is expected to end—today, following two days of argument for his guilt by the House impeachment managers. That prosecution was rock solid, tracing out how Trump set the stage to delegitimize an election he lost, then followed through when he did lose, insisting that the election must have been stolen. They showed that Trump himself chose the date of Jan. 6 for an event—which he promised “will be wild”—calling his supporters to Washington, D.C. on the day Congress met to certify the election results. They showed his repeated pressure and public attacks on Mike Pence, who he wanted to overturn the election. They showed how he encouraged the rally crowd outside the White House to be angry and to march on the Capitol. They showed how the mob received Trump’s instructions, saying it themselves in videos of the Capitol attack and in interviews and court documents since that they were doing what he had asked of them. They showed how terribly close to harm members of Congress—and in particular Pence—came. And they showed how Trump did not call the mob off throughout the attack.

Now his defense team begins, knowing that the vast majority of Republican senators do not care how guilty Trump is and do not care how ineffective the defense is. Expect it to be alternatively incompetent and dangerous and to show its contempt for the rule of law in its shoddiness and shortness.

It will be aired on major television news networks and streamed on their websites. Daily Kos will have continuing coverage.

Three ‘very friendly’ Republican senators met with Trump’s defense lawyers

At the beginning of an impeachment trial, senators swear an oath to “do impartial justice.” Most Republican senators have made clear throughout both of Donald Trump’s impeachment trials that this was a lie—at best, a fig leaf they used to get out of answering questions about how they saw the evidence. Then there’s Lindsey Graham, Mike Lee, and Ted Cruz. Those three met with Trump’s defense lawyers Thursday evening to offer advice.

The “very friendly guys,” according to Trump lawyer David Schoen, were making sure Trump’s lawyers were “familiar with procedure.” Probable translation: Wanted to be sure these clowns didn’t screw this thing up too badly for even Republicans to ignore. Was that ethical, though? “Oh yeah, I think that's the practice of impeachment,” Schoen claimed. 

How badly do Graham, Lee, and Cruz think Trump’s lawyers are going to screw up their defense arguments? Alternatively, how worried are they that some Republicans were persuaded by the House impeachment managers’ case? All but six Republicans already voted against holding an impeachment trial at all on the obviously false grounds that it was unconstitutional, giving them an excuse to vote to acquit without engaging the substance of what Trump did at all. 

Sens. Roy Blunt and Marco Rubio are sticking with that claim, for instance. “My view is unchanged as to whether or not we have the authority to do this, and I’m certainly not bound by the fact that 56 people think we do,” Blunt said. “I get to cast my vote, and my view is that you can’t impeach a former president. And if the former president did things that were illegal, there is a process to go through for that.”

And Rubio: “The fundamental question for me, and I don’t know about for everybody else, is whether an impeachment trial is appropriate for someone who is no longer in office. I don’t believe that it is.”

Do Cruz, Lee, and Graham think Schoen and immediately notorious idiot Bruce Castor need their advice to get through what’s forecast to be a very abbreviated day of arguments? Or are they still trying that pathetically hard to suck up to Trump? They do seem to have gotten the attention of his inner circle, with sleazeball adviser Jason Miller repeatedly mentioning their involvement on Newsmax, making absolutely clear the senators were there to build the case for Trump. “It was a real honor to have those senators come in and give us some additional ideas,” he said.

Republican senators have that “not constitutional” sham to hide behind, and they are energetically doing so. They have state parties ready to attack them the minute they step out of line. Donald Trump has his own defense lawyers, albeit not exactly the prime talent of conservative law. And as of Thursday, he officially has three of the people sworn to do impartial justice actively strategizing to help him get off.

The House impeachment managers, on the other hand, had the truth of what happened, and it was too powerful for Republicans to fully ignore. But that is unlikely to be enough.

Military officials got an ugly surprise from impeachment video of Pence being rushed to safety

Donald Trump made his supporters angry, called them to Washington, D.C., on the day Mike Pence was presiding as Congress certified Trump’s election loss, whipped them up into a vicious mob, and sent them to the U.S. Capitol, enraged at Congress and at Pence. We’ve known that.

This week, thanks to the House impeachment managers, we’ve learned just how close the mob came to Pence—and thanks to Sen. Mike Lee’s bumbling outrage, we’ve learned that Trump knowingly targeted Pence with another tweet immediately after he was moved for his safety. The mob responded to Trump’s effort to aim it at Pence, with his tweet saying “Mike Pence didn’t have the courage to do what should have been done to protect our Country and our Constitution” being read through a bullhorn by one of the insurrectionists.

Pence wasn’t rushed to safety alone, though. He was with his family, his security detail … and a military officer carrying the vice president's backup nuclear football. CNN reports that, according to an unnamed defense official, U.S. Strategic Command learned how close the football came to the mob when the impeachment managers played that new video showing Pence’s group rushing down a flight of stairs to a more secure location within the Capitol.

To be clear, the vice president’s nuclear football is a backup, and Trump’s football was secure at the White House, and the officer carrying Pence’s football never lost control of it, and there are a ton of safeguards built in to prevent an accidental nuclear strike. In the actual-nuclear-strike department, having it close to but not in the hands of the mob was not necessarily more dangerous than having it in the hands of Donald Trump for four years.

That said, there were other dangers, the Arms Control Association’s Kingston Reif told CNN: “The risk associated with the insurrectionists getting their hands on Pence's football wasn't that they could have initiated an unauthorized launch. But had they stolen the football and acquired its contents, which include pre-planned nuclear strike options, they could have shared the contents with the world.”

Trump’s malice was such that when he aimed that mob at Pence in his effort to overturn the election results and remain in the White House against the will of the voters, he not only tried to threaten the man who had obsequiously flattered him and done his bidding for four years, he threatened Pence’s family, his Secret Service detail, and both the nuclear football and the officer carrying it. Trump’s only thought was to try to stay in office or, failing that, radically undermine U.S. democracy and delegitimize the new president. He did not care who he put in danger to that end. It’s a lot for Republican senators to ignore. By doing so, they show us who they are.

Republicans will to have to work to blow off the impeachment case against Trump: Live coverage #3

The nine House impeachment managers spent Day One of their arguments in Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial building a devastating case against Trump, showing not just the violence of January 6 but the months of incitement leading up to it. Senate Republicans seem unmoved. Well, the arguments aren’t done yet.

This is the second and final day of the House managers’ case against Trump. It will be aired on major television news networks and streamed on their websites. Daily Kos will have continuing coverage.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 8:45:12 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Joe Neguse is in in the midst of walking the evidence a final time to show that Trump is in fact guilty of incitement. 

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 8:51:11 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

The fact that Trump bought $50 million worth of ads AFTER the election has to be one of the strangest features of this whole thing. The insurrection was not only televised, it was advertised.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 9:00:44 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

One last reminder from the people who took part. 

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 9:08:37 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Glad to see Rep. Neguse returning to this aback on Pence. Because it shows that Trump wasn’t just sitting back watching the screen on Jan. 6, he was still actively engaged in steering the insurrection toward specific targets.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 9:19:42 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Raskin notes that the authors put the oath of office right into the Constitution, and that one paragraph of four devoted to the office of president describes how a president can be impeached.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 9:25:52 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Raskin concludes with a quote from Thomas Paine. 

Sen. Chuck Schumer asks for for a period of ordinary Senate business on Friday morning. Then asks that the traditional reading of Washington’s farewell address be held on Monday.

And that’s it. The Senate is adjourned without Mike Lee finding something else to complain about.

The case against Donald Trump is already rock-solid, and it isn’t done yet: Live coverage #2

The nine House impeachment managers spent Day One of their arguments in Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial building a devastating case against Trump, showing not just the violence of January 6 but the months of incitement leading up to it. Senate Republicans seem unmoved. Well, the arguments aren’t done yet.

This is the second and final day of the House managers’ case against Trump. It will be aired on major television news networks and streamed on their websites. Daily Kos will have continuing coverage.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:36:30 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Diana DeGette continuing the presentation on the aftereffects of Trump’s support for the Jan. 6 insurgency.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:37:03 PM +00:00 · Joan McCarter

When you have an audience of one, and know your jury is fixed. 

The impeachment trial is currently ongoing.. but the Trump legal team's lead lawyer is not in the chamber. Doug Schoen is doing a live interview on Fox News Channel instead.

— Ryan Nobles (@ryanobles) February 11, 2021

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:42:54 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. DeGette showing how white supremacist groups are using Jan. 6 as a recruiting tool.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:46:18 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. David Cicilline steps up to begin a presentation on how Trump’s actions related to Jan. 6 has caused harm to Congress and the government as a whole.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:51:15 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Smartly, the House managers today have shown films of Republican state officials and Republican members of Congress when making a point about the threat felt at all levels of government.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 7:12:14 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Cicilline: “He was trying to become king, and rule over us.”

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 7:46:59 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

And they’re back.

Rep. Joaquin Castro coming up to talk about the harm Trump’s actions have caused to national security.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 7:54:39 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Castro shows Sen. Marco Rubio saying that the insurgents proved that critical national infrastructure was vulnerable.

House impeachment managers continue building their devastating case against Trump: Live coverage #1

The nine House impeachment managers spent Day One of their arguments in Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial building a devastating case against Trump, showing not just the violence of January 6 but the months of incitement leading up to it. Senate Republicans seem unmoved. Well, the arguments aren’t done yet.

This is the second and final day of the House managers’ case against Trump. It will be aired on major television news networks and streamed on their websites. Daily Kos will have continuing coverage.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:30:10 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

The second full day of presentations opened with Rep. Diana DeGette showing how those insurgents who invaded the Capitol on Jan. 6 believed they were doing what Trump had asked them to do.

Rep. Jamie Raskin now addressing that presentation and showing how insurgents acted in coordination with Trump.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:35:23 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Raskin showing a reel of the many past incidents in which Trump encouraged and incited violence.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:40:04 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Included in the presentations today, scenes from the white nationalist riot in Charlottesville, and Trump’s “very fine people” support of racist violence.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:42:47 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Raskin drawing the clear line between Trump’s encouragement and incitement and attacks on state capitols.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:44:00 PM +00:00 · Laura Clawson

Fox News cut away from the impeachment trial when they started showing a murderous mob chanting lies they got from Fox News.

— Schooley (@Rschooley) February 11, 2021

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:54:19 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Raskin doing a good job of showing how other actions, and in particular Trump’s actions in Michigan, showed that he completely understood how to incite violence, and knew that he could generate violence on demand.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:57:15 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Raskin: “My dear colleagues, is there any political leader in this room, who believes if he is ever allowed by the Senate to get back into the Oval Office, Donald Trump would stop inciting violence to get his way? Would you bet the lives of more police officers on that? Would you bet the safety of your family on that? Would you bet the future of your democracy on that?”

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 5:59:35 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Ted Lieu takes charge to talk about Trump’s actions, and lack of remorse, following the insurrection.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:07:40 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Lieu  mentioned that “some people think Trump should get a ‘mulligan’,” referencing the statement made by Sen. Mike Lee.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:11:56 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Lieu may be the best at delivering a message that’s deceptively quiet and calm, while also being powerful and firm.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:20:21 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Lieu shows some of the officials who resigned in the wake of Jan. 6. Note that Mitch McConnell’s wife features prominently on this list.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:21:13 PM +00:00 · Joan McCarter

Oh hey, a cameo appearance by former Transportation Secretary Elaine Chao. AKA Mitch McConnell’s spouse. Huh.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:24:34 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

 Rep. Diana DeGette steps back to the microphone to discuss how the insurgents reacted to Trump’s words following Jan. 6.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 6:34:15 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Trump retweeting comment that “the only good Democrat is a dead Democrat.”

Senate Republicans are working hard on excuses to acquit Trump despite the powerful case against him

Despite the House impeachment managers’ devastating case that Donald Trump incited the January 6 insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, Senate Republicans remain determined to let him off the hook. The arguments Wednesday showed Trump’s repeated attacks on Mike Pence for refusing to try to overturn the election results. They showed the mob chanting “Hang Mike Pence.” They showed Trump’s tweet yet again directing the ire of his supporters at Pence, and they showed an insurrectionist reading that tweet through a bullhorn in the middle of the attack on the Capitol. But according to Sen. Ted Cruz, “They spent a great deal of time focusing on the horrific acts of violence that were played out by the criminals, but the language from the President doesn't come close to meeting the legal standard for incitement.”

“Donald Trump over many months cultivated violence, praised it,” Del. Stacey Plaskett, one of the House managers, said. “And then when he saw the violence his supporters were capable of, he channeled it to his big, wild historic event.” And they showed, in meticulous detail, how Trump set the stage for the January 6 events, down to the fact that he was the one who called for a protest on that date, the date Congress was meeting to certify the election results. Far-right groups were planning Washington, D.C., events for other dates—until Trump started calling for January 6. “Be there, will be wild,” he tweeted on December 19 in just one of several times he promoted the event. And lo, it was wild.

But despite all the time spent on Wednesday showing all the ways that Trump convinced his supporters to believe that the election had been stolen, and how he repeatedly urged them to show up on that date—a date chosen because Congress would be cementing his loss one more time, an event he was frantically trying to block—and how he specifically focused their ire on Pence, and how he called on them to march to the Capitol—despite all that, Senate Republicans are pretending that the case against Trump is simply a matter of people who happened to support Trump doing a bad thing without any connection to him. That sure, there are some very scary videos showing that they themselves were in jeopardy, and that’s a terrible thing, but those are unrelated to Trump himself.

“The images are—first of all, they’re real, it’s not manufactured, but they are put together in a way that adds, on purpose, to the drama of it,” Sen. Kevin Cramer said. “I don’t begrudge them that.” But he clearly wanted focus on those images of the attack, because they enabled him to try to send all those carefully drawn ties to Trump down the memory hole.

“Senators are, you know, pretty analytical, as a matter of just a profession,” he said. “So it doesn’t affect me in terms of how I feel about the president’s culpability. That’s what’s on trial.” Yes, and there was evidence of that … but Cramer and most other Republicans don’t want to talk about it, though Sen. John Thune did acknowledge that the House managers were “connecting the dots.”

Other Republicans plan to rely on their obviously partisan claim that they aren’t allowed to even hold an impeachment trial for someone who is no longer in office. That way they don’t even have to consider the evidence—as Sen. Mike Braun said, “When you think the process is flawed in the first place, I think it's going to be different to arrive at a conclusion on the facts and the merits itself.”

Whether Republicans are afraid that Trump will again send his violent supporters after them physically, afraid that they will be primaried with Trump’s support, or simply are too partisan to take action against any member of their party ever, they are telling us—again—that the evidence doesn’t matter. Their party comes first. Donald Trump comes first.

Are any Republican senators listening to the case against Donald Trump? Live coverage #4

The House impeachment managers kicked off day one of Donald Trump’s second impeachment trial with a searing video of the Capitol attack, reminding senators of the stakes of the trial—and of the danger they had faced—at the beginning of an argument about the constitutionality of impeaching someone after he’s left office. Day two begins the actual arguments for convicting Trump, and it’s expected to bring more video evidence of what Trump incited and how he incited it.

The arguments will be presented by the nine House impeachment managers, led by Rep. Jamie Raskin. They have 16 hours to make the case over two days before Trump’s alternately incompetent and scary defense has the same amount of time. You can watch on most television news channels or their websites, and Daily Kos will have live coverage.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:43:42 AM +00:00 · Barbara Morrill

The trial is officially adjourned until tomorrow at 12 ET. We’ll be back with live coverage at that time.

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 · 11:34:41 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

And we’re back, with Rep. David Cicilline walking through Trump’s actions on Jan. 6.

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 · 11:43:10 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

It will be interesting to see if McCarthy will make any comment on this conversation.

Conversation between Kevin McCarthy and the White House.

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 · 11:47:49 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Cicilline spending quite a bit of time on the Tuberville call. Because it is seriously jarring.

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 · 11:52:52 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Plaskett’s earlier presentation may have been the most shocking when it came to events on Jan. 6, but Cicilline’s has been almost equally painful just by pointing out Trump’s inaction.

Rep. Joaquin Castro picking up the story now.

Wednesday, Feb 10, 2021 · 11:58:03 PM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Castro pointing out the timing of Trump’s tweet about Pence, just as the crowd is chanting “Hang Mike Pence,” and then seeing that crowd reacting to the tweet in real time, has to be one of the most impactful moments of the presentation. 

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:04:49 AM +00:00 · Joan McCarter

The focus on Pence has been so important. Those Republican senators are being forced to acknowledge that Trump sent the mob after him, that they intended to kill him. They’re being put in the position of having to betray Pence to stick with Trump.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:16:32 AM +00:00 · Joan McCarter

Rep. Castro’s use of multiple Republicans pleading with Trump during the insurrection to call it off makes that connection pretty darned clear. Every single person--Republican—making those calls knew that Trump incited this and was the only one who could stop it.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:17:10 AM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Underscoring Trump’s refusal to call on the National Guard, is another powerful point.

List of those involved in calling National Guard on Jan 6

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:20:37 AM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Castro: “Senators, Donald Trump left everyone in this Capitol for dead.”

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:32:16 AM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

Rep. Castro finishes up the day.

Sen. Mike Lee rises to say that statements attributed to him were inaccurate. Considering that the only statement attributed to Lee was simply that he wasn’t Tuberville, it’s hard to see what the heck he’s objecting to.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:38:25 AM +00:00 · Joan McCarter

It’s unclear right now what the procedure is for dealing with Sen. Mike Lee’s objection. The parliamentarian has said that Lee’s motion to have his words stricken is out of order. He’s appealed that ruling, so they should be voting on whether he can ask for his words to be stricken. This is a diversionary tactic, Lee trying to seize attention, disrupt things, change the tenor of the day.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:38:52 AM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

What we’re having now is a roll call while everyone tries to figure out just what the hell Mike Lee is on about. Too bad he’s not as upset about someone starting an insurrection as he is about being misquoted in saying “I’m not Tommy.”

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:41:52 AM +00:00 · Mark Sumner

And, whatever that was, we’re done for the night.

Thursday, Feb 11, 2021 · 12:42:04 AM +00:00 · Joan McCarter

So Lee has withdrawn his request, they might have to come back to it tomorrow, but they are now adjourned.